After reading FUD's thread on you pointed a gun at me.... I started to get angry. I know of 2 cases of firearms related incedents that happened here in pa. within the last 2 years... You may be suprized at the outcomes!
CASE 1:
A man about 22 years old gets a permit to carry, and buys a glock 19. He shoots it often at the local ranges, and joins his friends at many shooting clubs to share thier love of shooting. All of these guys know what the other shoots, and packs on the street.
One evening a friend asks to borrow the Glock owners truck to move his things to a new home. The guys agree on a drop off, and return point for the truck, and everything is great. That night at around 10:00 pm ( well after the return time) the Glock owner notices that his truck is about 5 hrs late. He calls the mans home many times, but gets no answers. After a while, he leaves a message telling him that he wants his truck back, and that he is less than happy about the situation. At around midnight, the guy brings the truck back, he has his wife along, who says that the message was full of nasty words, and was a threat to them. The two men argue for a few mins. then go thier seperate ways. Later that night, the state police show up and ask the man for his gun. He goes and returns with it. The officer says "yep, thats it... a Glock 19". " We will be taking this with us".
The court battle was a long one... all of about 20 mins. The man lost his Glock, and was put on two years probation for the simple fact that the friend and his wife claimed that he pulled the gun on them, and that they could identify the handgun. ITS THAT SIMPLE!!!
CASE 2:
A man and his son were deer hunting in the fields across from thier home. After a un sucessfull day, they returned home to find 2 police cars in the driveway. It turns out that a house about 1000 yards away was shot that morning, and the home owner told the police that she knew it had to be them. The man lost all of his guns, and the the police said that the box of .243 ammo for his hunting rifle "looked" like the one that was found in the wall of the home.... which turns out to be a .30 caliber bullet. This case is STILL under investigation, and the man still does not have his guns back ( since Nov.) I doubt he will ever see them again.
It just goes to show you that if other people don't like you.... you CAN and WILL loose your guns!!!!! Even if you know that there is no way you can be found guilty!! Judges have no respect, or love for gun owners... and they WILL take them from you!!!
( I just wonder where that Glock 19 is now???)
These stories were told to me in our shop. I know everyone involved, and while I will never have all the details, I have little faith in the justice system here in PA.
CJB
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" I SHOOT BACK! "
CASE 1:
A man about 22 years old gets a permit to carry, and buys a glock 19. He shoots it often at the local ranges, and joins his friends at many shooting clubs to share thier love of shooting. All of these guys know what the other shoots, and packs on the street.
One evening a friend asks to borrow the Glock owners truck to move his things to a new home. The guys agree on a drop off, and return point for the truck, and everything is great. That night at around 10:00 pm ( well after the return time) the Glock owner notices that his truck is about 5 hrs late. He calls the mans home many times, but gets no answers. After a while, he leaves a message telling him that he wants his truck back, and that he is less than happy about the situation. At around midnight, the guy brings the truck back, he has his wife along, who says that the message was full of nasty words, and was a threat to them. The two men argue for a few mins. then go thier seperate ways. Later that night, the state police show up and ask the man for his gun. He goes and returns with it. The officer says "yep, thats it... a Glock 19". " We will be taking this with us".
The court battle was a long one... all of about 20 mins. The man lost his Glock, and was put on two years probation for the simple fact that the friend and his wife claimed that he pulled the gun on them, and that they could identify the handgun. ITS THAT SIMPLE!!!
CASE 2:
A man and his son were deer hunting in the fields across from thier home. After a un sucessfull day, they returned home to find 2 police cars in the driveway. It turns out that a house about 1000 yards away was shot that morning, and the home owner told the police that she knew it had to be them. The man lost all of his guns, and the the police said that the box of .243 ammo for his hunting rifle "looked" like the one that was found in the wall of the home.... which turns out to be a .30 caliber bullet. This case is STILL under investigation, and the man still does not have his guns back ( since Nov.) I doubt he will ever see them again.
It just goes to show you that if other people don't like you.... you CAN and WILL loose your guns!!!!! Even if you know that there is no way you can be found guilty!! Judges have no respect, or love for gun owners... and they WILL take them from you!!!
( I just wonder where that Glock 19 is now???)
These stories were told to me in our shop. I know everyone involved, and while I will never have all the details, I have little faith in the justice system here in PA.
CJB
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" I SHOOT BACK! "