1911 Series 80 question

Malpaso

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I just picked up a Series 80 1911 Mark IV in 9mm. It has a two piece threaded rod guide that requires an allen wrench to take apart. I've never had one with a two piece rod guide. Is the only way to clean it to unscrew the guide? I can field strip my other ones with my eyes closed, but this is a real pain. TIA
 
Yep they are a real pain, get a stock guild rod and spring plug and make it stock again..Mr. Browning did it right for us..
 
I've been shooting the 1911 platform for 30 years. I have 18 such guns in 9mm, 38super and 45auto. Why not just replace the two piece with the original spring and smaller guide?
 
Sounds like you got an aftermarket part on your Colt. Lose it and use an original spring guide and plug as others have said. One of our esteemed members says the guide rods aid in extracting - - extracting money from the buyer's pocket!
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For a slightly more substantive response than my first one:

A full-length guide rod IS functionally better than the goofy short plug that comes standard on a 1911. It ensures the uniform movement of the spring, which would be more irregular without it. That's just basic mechanical engineering. Result: smoother cycling of the firearm and somewhat increased spring life.

Note, however, that for the most part the *practical* advantage of going to a FLGR is pretty darn small, and has to be counter-ballanced with the annoyance of disassembling the pistol. With a solid FLGR you need to use a bushing wrench, especially if the bushing-barrel-slide fit is very tight. Two-piece guide rods have to be unscrewed and have been known to shoot themselves un-screwed and get launched downrange. :eek:

For a 9mm 1911 I would probably go with the standard Colt arrangement. There is so much margin of safety shooting 9mm in a .45 ACP platform that it probably doesn't pay off to put up with the annoyance of a FLGR. With more powerful cartridges (e.g. 10mm, .45 Super) I think that *not* going with a FLGR arrangement is a bit foolish. In those cases you SHOULD go for every little advantage in optimizing your recoil setup. Since it routinely handles 600+ ft-lbs loads my Delta Elite has a Wilson Combat FLGR, a Wolff 24lb recoil spring and a CP shock buffer.
 
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