1911 modification information

bfj2

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I am looking for information on modifying a 1911. I keep hearing that there is tuns of stuff that you can do to one. So where is all this information? If anyone knows about any good web sites to get information or parts for modifying a 1911. Also what is a good 1911 to get if I just want to play with it and make modifications to?

Also what modifications have you made to your 1911? What would you recomend and what whould you never do again?

John
 
Shoot it a lot, don't modify it.:D

www.1911forum.com will have all the answers you seek young Padawan.

As for a 1911 to get and modify, some say Springfield armory, some say Kimber, and some say Colt :confused:

I have a Kimber Pro CDP that came pre-modified from the factory with everything I wanted, and is shoots awesome:D
 
Shoot it a lot, don't modify it.:D

www.1911forum.com will have all the answers you seek young Padawan.

As for a 1911 to get and modify, some say Springfield Armory, some say Kimber, and some say Colt :confused:

I have a Kimber Pro CDP that came pre-modified from the factory with everything I wanted, and it shoots awesome:D

Also I would never have a trigger job done by a certain local gunsmith as this resulted in a slamfire inside the house.:eek:

Good Luck.
 
Rather than just buy one and spend a bunch of money "modifying" it, you should probably buy one, shoot it like crazy, decide what you like or don't like about it and go from there (unless you just want to spend a lot of money for no reason).
I keep hearing that there is tuns of stuff that you can do to one. So where is all this information?
There is tons of stuff one can do to any gun, question is what do you want done? If someone were to list all the things that could be done, we'd be here a long time.

For 1911 parts go to www.brownells.com. Wilson Combat, Ed Brown, and many others sell parts for 1911s.

Shake
 
Depends on what you're starting with.

Try some new grips and see if that satisfies your urge to upgrade JMB's design. How does the gun shoot?

Regards.
 
Assuming the pistol is reliable, modifications in order of usefulness:

1. Trigger. A 1911 with a good trigger job will have the best trigger you can get in a combat handgun, period. Better trigger = easier to shoot well. This is probalby the most useful upgrade to a 1911 and relatively cheap (say ~$100).

2. Sights. Depends on what comes with your gun, but mil-spec type sights suck. Really, really badly. If your stock sights stink, then better sights like Novaks or Heinies will make it easier to shoot well. Adjustable sights are generally a waste of time for most people IMHO. Generally not too expensive.

3. Barrel. This again depends on how your gun is stock. Kimbers tend to be very accurate and probably wouldn't need more than a $50 muzzle crown to ensure Ludicrous Accuracy. If your pistol's (as distinguished from YOUR) accuracy sucks a fitted Bar-Sto barrel can easily bring your pistol's accuracy into the 1" @ 25 yard range or better, but between the barrel and fitting could set you back as much as $300. Almost all accuracy comes from barrel quality and barrel-to-slide fit, so while $300 sounds steep bear in mind that this alone will make all but the crappiest 1911 exactly as accurate as a $2,000+ custom piece.

4. Everything else. Aside from the above, everything else done to a 1911 is pretty much gravy. Extended thumb safties are more comfortable to maniuplate than stock pieces, and beavertails do improve the ergonomics of the grip for most people. But functionally none of the other stuff done to 1911 pistols makes a bit of a difference from the point of view of how well it pokes holes in pieces of paper.

I did pretty much all of the above to my Colt Delta Elite and am very happy with the results. The key is to have a good pistolsmith do the work. You can read my write-up on my pistol here:

http://www.geocities.com/mr_motorhead/deltabcp.html
 
Greg Morrison best answers your question in his "Modern Technique of the Pistol" which I believe came out in `92. he breaks down modifications into mandatory, optional and unnecessary.

You need: good trigger, night sights, reliability, and lots and lots of magazines.

I like: thin stocks, serrations up front, flat mainspring, checkering up front.

You do not need (and some are just downright dangerous): hubcap-size mag release, ambi safety (unless lefty), extended slide stop, mag wells, lasers or phasers.

The more formal hours you have, the less rubbish you will have on the gun. Go to skul, young man.
 
Two more must haves

Modified ejection port (lowered and flared with roll-off on rear) and extended ejector. These add to reliability, especially with underpowered ammo.

Nice but not necessary are full length guide rods and buffers. Buffers are a must on alloy frames but not necessary on stock ammo pistols.
 
I've been messin' with 1911s for a long time, and have learned how to do quite a bit of my own tuning.

My preference is to buy an older GI gun or a Series 70 and go from there. I'm less concerned about appearance than function, so rebuilding a rusty clunker saves me a bunch of money. Sooner or later, the billfold--I hope--would allow a refinish...

I use Hallock's book on the 1911, which doesn't mean others aren't equally good.

Just an opinion, of course. Everybody's got their druthers.

:), Art
 
I agree with CastleBravo basically. I would emphasize that he said "assuming that the pistol is reliable"and add that if it is not those matters need to be addressed first. If it won't run you may as well have a brick to throw.

The modifications that he mentioned , I also tend to agree with.

Also, keep in mind that when (if) you replace the sights, many times you have to damage the finish on the slide with heat or whatever. If so and you plan on refinishing it, it's a good time to do all of the things that you want done that will also damage the finish so that you only have the expense of refinishing the slide once. (Unless you plan to run it in and out of a holster in which case the finish will be ruined anyway) One such item is lowering and flareing the ejection port. It may not ever be needed but it doesn't cost much and it's one problem eliminated.

My best advice is to buy a functionally sound beater and shoot the hell out of it. Then save your box tops and coupons and go redeem a Wilson Combat with everthing. At least you'll appreciate it.

PigPen
 
I'm with ART.I started fiddling with old 70 series and Systemas and saved myself alot of money.Shoot the crap out of it and see what you do/do not like about it.Go from there.
 
I have two different Kimbers and love the 1911. I just don’t want to mess with them since they are $$$$. So I am looking into getting an older user 1911 of some type and mess with it. Once I find a modification that I really like I will do it to one of my Kimbers.

Keith J
Modified ejection port (lowered and flared with roll-off on rear) and extended ejector. These add to reliability, especially with underpowered ammo.

Do you know where I can get info on any that? I am looking for websites that have info and/or a place to buy the parts.

John
 
Thanks for all the info. I will let you know what I get and do. it might be a while though. I am going to mod my new glock 20 first.

John
 
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