teejhot.40cal
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I am interested in getting a Springfield loaded 1911 but I do not like the fact that it has a guide rod. Is it difficult to eliminate the guide rod completely?
1911 guide rod question?
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Jim Watson
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You cannot eliminate the guide rod entirely. You CAN replace the full length official takedown complicater with a short military type recoil spring guide. Procedure as mgdavis says, no fitting or tools required. Ed Brown sells GI guide and spring, if you do not know a gunsmith who will likely have takeoffs on hand.
Or if you want to really improve the operation of the weapon, you can alway replace the full-length monstrosity with a King's Gun Works slide bumper assembly. It has a short recoil spring guide with a spring damper built into it. Comes with a hardened steel recoil spring cap. About $35-40, IIRC.
If you like a shock buffing system, look at Sprinco's. It is a beaut.
That said, you'll likely get as much or more perceived recoil reduction from fitting a square bottom firing pin stop, which cocks the hammer with lower mechanical advantage. You can get them that drop in or that need a little fitting. I tried the latter this year, and it does reduce muzzle flip.
Nick
That said, you'll likely get as much or more perceived recoil reduction from fitting a square bottom firing pin stop, which cocks the hammer with lower mechanical advantage. You can get them that drop in or that need a little fitting. I tried the latter this year, and it does reduce muzzle flip.
Nick
Jim Watson
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I found the Sprinco absolutely unusable. When the gun stopped open on the last shot, the buffer spring rammed the slide hard against the slide stop, making a fast reload difficult to impossible. Not permissible for IDPA where frequent slidelock reloads are required. I could not tell much difference in the felt recoil, either.
Jim,
Interesting. I didn't notice that problem with mine. I agree that felt recoil doesn't change dramatically, but reducing gun battering seems to be a main selling point. I wound up removing mine when I was working with lighter bullets. I'll have to put it back in and double-check? I've been working up some heavy loads in my strain gauged Encore barrel, and will want if for testing those. Did you talk to Alan Dugger about it? He seems to take a fair amount of pride in his products.
Nick
Interesting. I didn't notice that problem with mine. I agree that felt recoil doesn't change dramatically, but reducing gun battering seems to be a main selling point. I wound up removing mine when I was working with lighter bullets. I'll have to put it back in and double-check? I've been working up some heavy loads in my strain gauged Encore barrel, and will want if for testing those. Did you talk to Alan Dugger about it? He seems to take a fair amount of pride in his products.
Nick
45RackerTracker
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Buffering anyone?
Where can I get this "buffing" system and can I shine shoes with it also?
Recoil? what recoil?
Where can I get this "buffing" system and can I shine shoes with it also?
Recoil? what recoil?45RackerTracker
It's not usually recoil that people care about (though some with shooter's elbow do), it's getting back down on target faster. "Felt recoil" is one of the indicators you can use that something is helping because it can mean your hand is not being knocked out of position as hard. It can also fool you, though. Actually timing your runs and checking your accuracy on follow-up shots is the only way to really tell.
In the case of the squared firing pin stop, you trade ease of slide racking off against reduced muzzle flip. After installing it, a friend observing me shooting from the adjacent firing point said my muzzle flip was visibly reduced using it. It is a drawback if you have to rack the gun during a clearing drill (a bit harder to start the slide rearward), though I don't find it a great drawback. The other thing it does is delay the start of the slide into counterbattery, and if you have a barrel with an unsupported chamber breech, this added delay can reduce case bulging.
Nick
It's not usually recoil that people care about (though some with shooter's elbow do), it's getting back down on target faster. "Felt recoil" is one of the indicators you can use that something is helping because it can mean your hand is not being knocked out of position as hard. It can also fool you, though. Actually timing your runs and checking your accuracy on follow-up shots is the only way to really tell.
In the case of the squared firing pin stop, you trade ease of slide racking off against reduced muzzle flip. After installing it, a friend observing me shooting from the adjacent firing point said my muzzle flip was visibly reduced using it. It is a drawback if you have to rack the gun during a clearing drill (a bit harder to start the slide rearward), though I don't find it a great drawback. The other thing it does is delay the start of the slide into counterbattery, and if you have a barrel with an unsupported chamber breech, this added delay can reduce case bulging.
Nick
UH1-D Rotorhead
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Stay away from ALL.....
....shock buff systems....they work initially, and I mean, in the very short run, and then you will have problems...ie: slide not locking back after the last shot is fired, stovepipes, sensitive to a variety of ammo....not worth he money or your life...stick wth the standard "GI" guide rod and spring setup....that's how the gun was designed.
....shock buff systems....they work initially, and I mean, in the very short run, and then you will have problems...ie: slide not locking back after the last shot is fired, stovepipes, sensitive to a variety of ammo....not worth he money or your life...stick wth the standard "GI" guide rod and spring setup....that's how the gun was designed.
45RackerTracker
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Nick
I was alluding to the fact that my shot placement rapid fire is damn good with my .45s, I shoot one in my left hand and one in my right, in succession, quite effectively.
I was alluding to the fact that my shot placement rapid fire is damn good with my .45s, I shoot one in my left hand and one in my right, in succession, quite effectively.
Harry Bonar
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guide rod
Dear Sirs:
Get rid of the guide rod and put original parts in. I assume your pistol is a full size 1911?
If it's a compact you'll have to live with a guide rod.
Harry B.
Dear Sirs:
Get rid of the guide rod and put original parts in. I assume your pistol is a full size 1911?
If it's a compact you'll have to live with a guide rod.
Harry B.
teejhot.40cal
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It will be a Springfield full loaded that i will be doing it with. The guide rod is original, but I hate them because I feel that they are unnecessary