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Aguila Blanca
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I'm not interested. I have built a number of pistols using Caspian receivers and I have no problem with them, but I don't see a Caspian receiver as an appropriate base for a top-of-the-line repro.kh1911 said:
In addition, if you really mean an M1911 repro rather than an M1911A1, the contours of Caspian's M1911 receiver (especially the trigger guard) are incorrect.
Considering i prefer a beavertail, and modern sights, not much. Although i know alot of people like the classic original look. Ed brown parts are top notch. I have a few in my 1911 and are very happy with them. As for caspian frames, as long as the are truly forged steel, i wouldnt care who they came from, although i here S. Korea has been making or at least provoding the steel for many of our 1911 frames. Which i dont like
Another custom 1911? Please take a number and wait in line over there, sir.
Seriously, what are you thinking of offering that is different, unique, cheaper, better than what is on the market now? What price range would you have to go for to 1) keep up quality and 2) make money? Remember, your cost needs to be around 1/7 of the retail price, though you can shave that if you work manufacturer to retail dealer.
Jim
Seriously, what are you thinking of offering that is different, unique, cheaper, better than what is on the market now? What price range would you have to go for to 1) keep up quality and 2) make money? Remember, your cost needs to be around 1/7 of the retail price, though you can shave that if you work manufacturer to retail dealer.
Jim
DontRushTheShot
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I guess my question is, why waste your time and money? There is every style and every skill level of 1911 out there already, it is literally an "abused" market. Everyone's cousin, uncle, and brothers in-laws make a 1911. You can pay $400 for a 1911 or you can pay $8,000. Maybe 30 years ago the idea would have been amazing, but it's a little late. If you're dead set on doing something in the 1911 category all I can say is good luck, I'd suggest custom work only, only take orders for your pistols because nobody is going to sell a specialty 1911 through a retail chain (Bass Pro, Cabelas, Academy, Gander Mtn, etc) because there is already about 50 other ones. Kimber being the most common high end 1911 imo, although not the best. Basically what I'm saying, you will never make any money and it's doubtful the guns would ever become popular, like I said "abused" market.
Hell everytime I even think about buying my first 1911 I get a little sick feeling knowing that I'm doing something that is literally the most un-original thing someone can do in the firearm community atleast for semi auto pistols.
Hell everytime I even think about buying my first 1911 I get a little sick feeling knowing that I'm doing something that is literally the most un-original thing someone can do in the firearm community atleast for semi auto pistols.
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Yeah. Be a little more specific. Did you mean, as Aquila Blanca mentioned, an original 1911 (as opposed to a 1911A1) pistol?
If so, ATI (IIRC) has already done that with the "Wild Bunch" model, and both Colt and Remington have now sold "repros" of their WWI 1911s.
And, quite frankly, after seeing what a good friend of mine went through, I wouldn't use a Gaspain frame for anything.
1969Colt1911
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Ok I buy a Caspian frame/slide with good stuff. I'll read reviews first, if good reviews. I'll view the prices asked and options available.
Could work if you or members of your workforce knew what they were doing. I would go to Wilson or Les Baer or Ed Brown for the 2000 plus range. But if your gun was a little less I might look.
Could work if you or members of your workforce knew what they were doing. I would go to Wilson or Les Baer or Ed Brown for the 2000 plus range. But if your gun was a little less I might look.
buckhorn_cortez
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Obviously, the number would be 42 - the answer to the ultimate question of life, the universe, and everything...
I would not be. I already have Turnbull/Remington UMC WW1 commemorative, a very nicely done repro of the original 1911. In addition, there are a number of Colt repros out there available at reasonable prices ($1000-$1500). Heck, you can still find Colt 50 year WW1 anniversary guns from the late '60s that are unfired in that same price range. There are a few others out there as well, never mind all of the military style 1911A1s that have come and gone from the market over the years. I don't think there is a big enough market out there for what you're describing.
DontRushTheShot
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The market is abused. That's all that needs to be said.
1969Colt1911
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I looked at that one WC as I owned an original bought and sold. I don't remember number, but when I saw that new production available. Believe me I wished I had money asked. The UMC is only owned or know by very few.
So would I. I'd be looking at a classic Colt built repro 1911 or more likely 1911A1 in the $1000+ range. However, as the price goes up I'd rather have a real war veteran, not a repro with high priced parts. Or what I've owned 40 years, a 1976 Colt Government Model Series '70 with a standard barrel bushing, a pretty darn good 1911!
If not Colt, $400 actually could get you a foreign made basic 1911 or $500+ for a US built Remington R1 that's a pretty convincing 1911A1 if the stainless barrel bushing and flat mainspring housing are replaced.
And of course if you want it right and are willing to pay, why not get real World War vets! Maybe a Colt or Remington Rand and if anything left over an M1 Garand or Carbine.
No, I wouldn't be a customer. If I were paying $1500 or more and using Ed Brown, etc. parts I would be building a more modern 1911.
DontRushTheShot
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The idea of another 1911 sounds just as good if not better than another aftermarket 10/22 manufacturer there is only about 30. I wish you the best of luck.
DontRushTheShot
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Above post, +1!