1895 Chilian Mausers

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anodes

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A friend of mine called and told me that there are some 1895 Chilian Mausers going around now for ~$110. He said these have been rebarrled to .308win. He carried on about how they are similar to the "small ring" Mausers, with the clean lines of the Swedish Mausers. He also said that they are antiques and can be shipped to your door with no NICS. He said they are available through SARCO but _someone_ has them for less and there are unissued/unfired gunds available for a little more.

He is a Mosin-Nagant/Mauser Maniac! I know almost nothing about these guns.

Does anyone know about these guns or this particular deal?
anodes.
 
Anodes. The 1895 Mausers were originally chamber for the 7x57 cartridge, and proofed for 45,000 PSI. The .308 develops pressures well in excess of 50,000 PSI. This makes it a somewhat dubious conversion in my opinion.
In fact, this is the reason 7x57 MM ammo has never been loaded to it's full potential in this country. The 1893 and 1895 Mausers are considered to be too weak. I once had a beautiful 1893 Mauser sporter in 7x57. I traded it off for another rifle. I informed the fellow I traded it to of the pressure limitations, as he was a reloader. He paid no attention to what I said, and destroyed a beautiful rifle with his first box of reloads, not to mention some expensive hospital bills. The only thing that saved me from a lawsuit was the fact that I notated the pressure limitations on both his and my copies of the bill of sale, which I had him sign as well. It's too bad some people just don't listen.
Paul B.
 
Paul B, Thank you. He did mention something about the pressure differences. This would seem to be a marginal deal at best.

Still looking for that nice, cheap, surp, bolt gun in .308win. Mailed to my door would be a bonus. ;)
anodes.

[This message has been edited by anodes (edited August 10, 2000).]
 
If memory serves, the Chilian and Argentine Mausers were model 1891's, and the ones that I saw years ago were Ludwig Lowe, Berlin or DWM and were things of beauty. Fit and finish were beautiful, everything was numbered and they all matched, the rifles had about 29 or 30" barrels, carbines were full stock Manlicher, with turned down bolts, the rifles were straight bolt. They cocked on CLOSING, single col, external magazines and were chambered for 7.65mm Mauser cartridge. Most that one saw were unused, or seemed to be.

I would thing rechambering these to .308 Winchester would be questionable, to say the least, unless you intended to "load down".

If you are dead set on a .308 in a surplus rifle, there are 308 Enfields, made in India avaialble. I suppose that some 1898 Mausers have been redone to 308 also, and FN made 1898 model Mausers in 30-06. that was some time back, but you might find one of them around

[This message has been edited by alan (edited August 12, 2000).]

[This message has been edited by alan (edited August 12, 2000).]
 
Hi, I have one of the Lowe model Chilian mausers it is am M1895 model which is basicly a spanish 1893 with a "safty tab" sort of a 3 rd lug but behind the bolt handle. The conversion of these rifles was unique in that instead of re-barreling them the chlilians re-bored them from 7mm to 7.62 and the over bored the chamber and then silver solderd a chamber adapter into place.

I did not know all this when I got the gun (live and learn) but since I have it and it is a great looking gun I decided to convert it to a safer round. I picked up one of the mace chamber adapters from .308 Win to 7.62x32 russian (m43) it costs $25 and worked just fine, they recommend not using surplus or steele cases but that is no big deal I hand load 150g bullet to the spec load from the lee manual and it works great. If you decided to get them you will need to either convert it or load it down in my opinion but either way I would not want to shoot a lot of .308 out of it (I know people on the net that have but I converted mine which sums up my view)

Have fun and be safe.
 
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