1886 Year 1896

bigbuck007

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Dear all,

Maybe you can give me some hints:

I got offered :

- Winchester Rifle 1886 40-65 Year 1896

- Winchester Rifle 1895 35 WCF Year 1915 Take Down

- Winchester 1895 7,62x54R Year 1916 Russia contract with bajonett

What is a reasonable price, the overall conditions are good incl the rifling?

Any experience about reloading ?

Thank you for your kind help


Bigbuck
 
they are three fine rifles and they are worth a pretty penny, check the auction side to find prices.if i was offered them for less than 3000.00 USD, i would be on them like stink on poop. eastbank.
 
Hi. The .40-65 and .35 WCF(that is not a .358 Win) will give you grief for reloading. Brass and dies will be special order and those rifles are collectors pieces(worth several thousand USD, around 2 to 3 thousand each, Stateside, depending on condition of course.) that shooting will severely reduce their value.
Very few of the 1895's over here. Worth around 3 grand US plus, all by itself. Likely a premium for the bayonet too.
 
IF I saw one of those winchesters 7.62x54R. It would be priority #1 on my list. Bar no other gun in the world. What I would not give for one of those. Buy it Buy it Buy It.
 
The last time I saw a Russian Contract 1895 in the wild the asking price was $1,200 non-negotiable. Over a decade ago.

I'm pretty sure inflation has seen the price go p since then.

Jimro
 
How about some pix?

If I had to choose only one of those, I would probably lean towards the 1886, but they are all really fascinating. Not to be argumentive, but I have a different viewpoint on shooting those rifles and reloading ammo for them. If those rifles were as- new-in-box, then yes, shooting them at all would reduce their value. More likely, they may have been used substantially. If that's the case, then no amount of normal shooting that you might do is likely to affect their value at all. Keeping in mind that the1886 is a true black-powder vintage rifle, you don't try to make a magnum out of it with maximum smokeless loads; you can wreck it, ya know......
About reloading bringing you grief: There are the fellows that prefer their reloading to be a high volume affair with some degree of automation, turret presses with umpty-nine die stations and ZERO PROBLEMS. They probably load for perhaps 45 auto and 5.56 NATO, but it's very unlikely that they will load for 44-40 Winchester, because it will bring them grief. Why would anybody even have a 44WCF that's such a PITA to reload for when they could simply have a 44 Special or 44 magnum that's sooooo much easier, right? Well, ask the guys that love their 44-40's and you are likely to find a very different kind of reloader. This fellow likely uses a single-stage press and does most everything by hand. He is not concerned about churning out 2 or 3 thousand rounds for an AR or whatever. But putting together a couple of hundred rounds for a vintage, perhaps obsolete firearm? Why, that's just his game. Where there's a will, he finds a way. And he probably gets more enjoyment per round than the previous fellow. So there ya go. You maybe could have some decent wall-hangers. But if it were me, that 1886 would be going Deer hunting ASAP.
 
Dear all,

Thank you. Now at least some pictures for better judging
 

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Old Winchesters.....

......Marvelous contraptions, take them all, if you can get them within reason. They tend to hold their value better than the dollar does. Where' the 1886?
 
I have collected old winch esters for the last 50 years. I have attended numerous gun shows and collector shows. I have never seen a 35 WCF and in a take down yet. And I have never seen a Russian contract gun and this one has a bayonet. For my collection, if the bores are in good shape I wouldn't bat an eye at $4500 for those 3 guns. They look in pristine condition. Some how get a bore scope and look at the bores , the Russian contract especially has seen lots of corrosive ammo.
45-60 ammo is available for the 86, see it at collector shows all the time, bit costs about $3 a round. But then so do the big magnums.
 
The 40-65 would not be difficult to reload for. It would be a great cast bullet shooter. Fortunately, it's not a 40-82, which is substantially more complicated to get accurate loads for. But, hey, where are the pix?
 
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Don t worry,

here we go


So you say i should close my eyse and buy all of them.. Wife is killing me..:cool::cool:


Bigbuck
 

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If i realy get one of this,i promisse i will post the finest pictures possible and correct aligned as well

greetings

bigbuck
 
Just by accident:mad::mad: the seller raised the prices above reasonable!

So they will stay in his safe until end of time....

However thank you so much for your kind support

bigbuck
 
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