1858 Remington Photos

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I just ordered my Pietta 1858 yesterday and it wont be here for about another week. Below I have posted a photo of some 1858s from Pietta's website.

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It would be great for everyone who owns one of these pieces to post some photos of their 1858s here.

I have read that some of you have been refinishing your 1858s for a vintage look. If you guys can post some before and after photos of your pistols that would be really cool because I'm thinking about stripping the finish of off mine after I get it.

Thanks a lot guys.

Lance
 
That's funny because I love the look of blued steel, and the better the bluing, the more I like it.

I wouldn't for a minute think of scrubbing tahat finish off the hardware to make it look like a piece of crap. I know many do like the look of a 2005 piece looking like it is 150 years old, but do not understand why.

My newest Pietta from Gander Mountain came in with a 1/4 inch scratch near the muzzle, drove to WVA store to exchange it, got one that is cosmetically perfect. Hey, I paid for new, I WANT new. Got a scratch in the cyl since, not happy, but can fix that.

I want it to look like it came from the factory, whether it be tomorrow, or ten years from tomorrow. Not gonna beat it with chains to make it look like it went through the Indian Wars. You want a piece of junk, why don't you go to the auctions and buy a piece of junk? Should be cheaper.

How come nobody ever says they took a piece of drill rod and 240 grit emery paper and wipes the lands out of the barrel to make it an authentic shot out pistol, 150 years old, see what I have to shoot?

You got a thing about blued steel, one of the prettiest colors there is, I simply can't understand you. Do you take your pocketknife to the grips to make them look like the owner hammered in fence staples?

Wierd, some 'o yunz are.

Cheers,

George
 
These are in the Triple 7 thread but here are my Remingtons

First shown is my 2002 44 Rem NMA in the before condition
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After:
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Right side
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Left

My 2005 Pietta 44 Rem. before:
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After:
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Left
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Right

You'll notice that I ported both to use with a Kirst Konverter in 44 Rem. loading of the Colt 44 CF (Original loads discontinued in 1895, now reintroduced by Old West Moulds Fruita, Co.) I will have the second Konverter here by Christmas.
I can shoot both either way BP or BP cartridge.
 
Boy it'd be pretty dull if we liked the same thing. We'd all drive Volkswagens and eat Tofu.
To each his own I don't haver to worry about cylinder drag marks either. If I ever get one of the "shooter's Remington's" I'll leave it blue,

I will admit it took some intestinal fortitude to remove all that pretty blue, but.....

As for the chains and knives to the steel and grips...not this time around.
Nor will I screw up the bore more than shooting it. I cannot afford to have "lookers" at my house. They have to function or they don't get a place here.

FYI The originals in any shape to shoot are MORE expensive than these have been.
 
dragoon,
your right about having lookers at the house.if i have a firearm in the house it better shoot!! lol.
 
Dragoon, you're right if we all liked exactly the same thing it would be pretty dull and the richest people would have all the (insert name of whatever you like here) and the rest of us would be sh** out of luck. :p
George, I like the brand new blue also and have a few guns that I am very careful with and don't want them scratched up but I also think the "worn down" look adds character to some pieces. My target version remington 58 gets the baby treatment and I keep it as new looking as possible, but the new 58 I got with the notch sights is in the process of being "antiqued". Nothing wrong with liking either one, whatever suits you best.
My new 58 before:
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My new 58 after stripping the finish:
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George, It's really kind of crazy for me to worry about the blueing on my Remingtons. These boys are made for work and wear in so real bad weather, dirt, sweat, heat and just plain rough sitsuations. They have chased off Bear, killed many coperheads and rattlers, coon and fox with rabbies as well as put vension on the table. Don't get me wrong here, I take care of them like they were my first born but when Im walking in these mountains and they are on my side they do there job and they aren't there for looks.:)
There was a time when I was like you and in fact I rust blued these and other guns several times. For those of you who don't know, rust blueing is as good as it gets and it takes no less than a week to do a Remington .44 and do it right. worrying about every scratch got old after a while and kind of senseless. Now it looks like it was intended to and it shoots as straight as it did when it was blue.
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Low Key,

I like the look of that pistol after it was stripped:

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How difficult was it to strip the finish and what did you use?

How close does that "naked" finish look to a stainless or nickel finish when it is stripped like that?

I'm thiniking I might strip my blueing off and keep it oiled to aproximate a stainless finish. If it corodes a little with time, well that just makes it look more vintage.

What do you guys think?

Lance
 
I used birchwood casey blue and rust remover that I bought at wal mart and it works wonders on taking off the bluing. I spent the better part of a day to strip the pistol and a spare cylinder down to metal using an old cloth and some q-tips.
The way it is now, it looks like a satin stainless finish. It has a kind of brushed look to it that you can't see in the pictures and it's aquiring a few darker places from the BP and substitutes.
 
RK,

You're right, if we all had the same taste, etc.

If mine get holster wear, or hand wear or whatever, that's different, to me. Scratches, same thing.

And, Low Key's gun looks great, in the after pic. But, it looks like a satin finish SS gun, not like some with all manner of discolorations. And, properly maintained, well lubed, it should look like that for years to come, eacept for smoke darkening. My Ruger Super B in SS is blackened at the chamber mouths and forcing cone end and nothing I have used will clean that off.

When you throw them in a tumbler full of ball bearings and tumble for a few hours to put dings in them to look like they were all thrown into piles when taken from Civil War captives, and dumped into barrels for storage, and the barrels rolled a couple hundred yards to the warehouse that I find going too far. (Don't laugh, a site I was on explained that either Pietta or Uberti did tumble the ones thay sold as "Patina'ed".)

Anyone can do what they want with their weapon. Personally, I don't like the fake antique look. Buy the genuine article, if you can scrape up the cash. An original that looked a 150 years old, but still shot, would get my money, if it were within my reach. Trouble is I have short arms.

And, too, any steel, and maybe even the brass, replicas are stronger than the originals. Steel, even the lowest grades, are stronger than the stuff from then. I work in a steel mill, by the way, I know just a little about it, but don't ask me about metallurgy, that much I don't know.

Cheers,

George
 
Well,i Like The Old Look!!! If I Wanted A Brand New Blue Gun I'd But A Modern Firearm But I Like The Older Firearms Thus The Older Look.on An Older Dated Gun Like The 58's It Just Looks Better To Me W/the Old Finish And I Think Most Of Here Feel The Same Way.just Cause We Dont Like That Flashy Blue Like You George Doesnt Mean We Are So Much Different Than You,hell We All Still Like The Same Firearm,the 58,right?thats All That Matters Here!!!
 
Well I don't go as far as beating the H-E-DOUBLE HOCKEY STICKS out of my antiqued guns. And the fact that they are worn looking, doesn't mean they do not get the utmost care.

Everytime I shoot them, they get cleaned thouroughly, I mean completely dis-assembled cleaned and oiled.
Actually I remove the grips and submerse the whole thing in hot soapy water for a time, then clean, the bore and everything on the out side. I dry it then dis-assemble the gun and clean the innards. oil everything wipe down, re-assemble while applying light machine oil to the moving parts I oil the whole gun, wipe down then re-install the grips and wipe down agin. this it time consuming, but the innards will last for years, and the outside will look likwe it's over 100 years old.

I antique mine because i collect original Conversions (when I can afford it) and they all look great on the table. Plus it's really a hoot when someone picks up the "New" old gun, compares it to an ariginal, and you tell them.."it's not really waht it appears to be."

I also like the looks of finely blued guns. I had an old L.C. Smith 20 Gauge S X S field grade gun restored and it was the most beautiful shotgun I ever owned, and it got game. I personally do not like "restored Originals" but that was a working gun from day one, and I had it redone to it's former glory.
 
Patina Looks Great!

Myself I like the Patina finish. I have some a both...a 45 yr. Old 1860 Army Belgium made that looks it's age, and a 1858 Rem with U.S Gov. markings.
and an 1858 Rem Target Model Pietta in Blued...and an Old Silver Rem waitin to be picked up...So I like um all and don't bad mouth anything. It would be worse than insulting a Man's Lady. Guys don't show this to your wives...HeHe!
Pics Below:
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Patina Looks Great!

Myself I like the Patina finish. I have some a both...a 45 yr. Old 1860 Army Belgium made that looks it's age, and a 1858 Rem with U.S Gov. markings.
and an 1858 Rem Target Model Pietta in Blued...and an Old Silver Rem waitin to be picked up...So I like um all and don't bad mouth anything. It would be worse than insulting a Man's Lady. Guys don't show this to your wives...HeHe!
Pics Below:

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...I like um....
 
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