.177vs's 22short

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Jamie Young

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Can anyone tell me standard velocities of air rifles? I have a Crossman air rifle that has been sitting in my closet for years. I honestly think that with the .177 pellets at 10 pumps its pretty close to a 22 short? I've taken it to the range to shoot 25yds and have done pretty well with it.
 
Well, the specs on the boxes of the new guns say in the range of 650fps for a mid-priced airgun (around $100) to 1000 fps for a $200 (and up) airgun. I've heard reports that, at the high-end, some of the guns go supersonic.

1000 fps is probably faster than a .22 short, but I don't know the weight of the pellet in grains, so not sure it would hit as hard.

I don't think a .177 at 1000 fps will hit as hard as a .22 short, but I could be wrong.

A suggestion--find a friend who has a chronograph (or find someone using one at the range?) and ask to fire a few rounds through it. I'd be interested in the results. When I was a kid, those Crossmans at 10 pumps had a reputation for power. A few years ago I got my kid one, and it seemed like a wimp. Not nearly as accurate as the old ones, either. Very disappointing.
 
I know for a fact that the Crossman I have is stronger than some of the other 10 pumps out there. Mine is some kind of anniversary issued one. I think I got it in the late 80's. I know those pellets mash up pretty good and I gotten rid of a few rodents with it. Namely about a 5lb rat in my neighbors garage!
 
I have a crosman classic and it shoots 725 fps at 10 pumps they are powerful i was very surprised at the power of my air rifle i was shooting muskrats to get rid of them and it took them out with one well placed shot to the head its also my favorite squirrel rifle low noise and the same effect as a .22 one dead squirrel i'll bet you have a 760 pumpmaster for those are the most common they shoot about 590 fps at 10 pumps.

Crosman .177 pointed pellets have a weight of 7.9 grains
 
I have a .177 RWS model 48 (spring piston type), it's cronographed velocity is 1050 fps with rws "super H" pellets, accuracy is excellent. Used it to kill many small mamals, starlings and crows when I lived in town. Haven't used it since I moved out to the county, .22 lr has much more range and "knock down". High velocity shorts are much better killers too. Suggest going for head shots with the pellet guns.
 
Dave R,

Bought it 7-8 years ago, ~$275.00. These are quality air rifles, definitely not in the toy airgun class. A co-worker has an RWS Model 36 in .177 cal, it's a barrel cock rather than a side lever. Accuracy and velocity are comparable to the M48, finish and price are both significantly lower. BTW, I bent the side lever (operator error), RWS sent a new one, no charge!
 
If anybody is looking for a high quality airgun at a good price, I have three words: Beeman Precision Airguns. Namely the economy spring piston(barrel cock) guns. Though you can't beat a top of the line beeman, I picked up an .177 HW30 from beeman about ten years ago and still have fun with it. Power is a little lower at 675 fps but accuracy is unparalleled. With iron sights it will head shot a bluejay @ fifty yards, not bad for a $175 pellet gun, get the hollow point pellets and you are in buisness for anything up to squirrel or crow size. I remember the Crossmans also, good guns, but now they seem a lot cheaper and less powerful something to do with stupid kids accidentally shooting friends with bad results. Just my two cents.

-Anglewood
 
RWS Airguns are SWEEEETTTTT!! I had one since I was a little kid. Still have it :) Gets about 800fps, and is REALLY accurate! I was thinking about getting a Mod48 in the near future. Will have to check one of those out.
 
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