Lavan: Re wind-bucking by 17 hummer: What I read on rimfire central was that, all in all the 17 bucks the wind better than .22 mag, NOT because it's inherently better (it's not - it's lighter and worse for that, all other things being equal), but simply because it gets to the target FASTER, and therefore the wind has less TIME to act upon the bullet (the amount the wind affects the bullet is a function of wind speed, direction, and bullet shape, and bullet weight, AND the amount of time the wind has to exert its force upon the bullet, which of course depends on the velocity of the bullet, which is several hudred fps faster with 17). I'm not totally sure I believe this, but someone with sufficient engineering knowledge should be able to prove or disprove this quite easily mathematically. However, it MAY be the case that the 17 hmr bucks the wind better over "long distances, light wind", whereas the .22 mag bucks it better over "short distance, strong wind". I can envision this as a physical possibility, but perhaps the .17 consistently wins in this category; perhaps the .22 consistently wins; I just don't know.