124 flat nose hollow base

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Budd56

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Can't seem to find any info in books for this load. 124 grain 9mm Berry's flat nose hollow base. I have load some samples to try. Titegroup at 3.8 to 4.3 with col at 1.041. What's your thoughts on this? Thanks for your in site. Budd
 
I think that's what I used. Low end jacketed data. The load I run using the Berrys 124gr HBRN-TP is 3.8gr of Titegroup. I just stayed there. Nice easy shooting load.

When I shoot pistol, it's mainly just to plink, so I personally don't go much over what makes the pistol function perfectly. I personally never go towards the hot side with my plinking loads.
 
When I shoot pistol, it's mainly just to plink, so I personally don't go much over what makes the pistol function perfectly. I personally never go towards the hot side with my plinking loads.
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A lot of headaches (and broken guns) could be avoided if folks would stick to this advice. When I see guys trying to eek out a few more fps with their hand loads, I think -- why?? Hunting loads --OK, that's a whole different thing. Not many guys are out hunting deer with their nine though.

I love the Berrys bullets for nice accurate plinking loads, and I'm a bullet caster. Berrys are so economical and good that I sometimes wonder why I cast. :rolleyes: jd
 
I found that there is absolutely no real reason to try to shoot plated bullets to jacketed bullet velocities. So, keeping my K.I.S.S. philosophy in place I reloaded most of my plated bullets with lead bullet data...

I too cast, and it's not about the money to me. I like to take some greasy, dirty scrap lead and clean it up real good, then cast a bunch of bullets and use my perfected lube to lube them and size them perfectly for each gun they are meant to be used in. And when I shoot 'em and they all go into a little tiny cluster, I get a real gooood feeling. That's why I cast...:D
 
You do not need manufacturer specific data. Load plated bullets using cast bullet data by the weight of the bullet. Plated bullets are not jacketed.
The 125 grain cast data on Hodgdon's site is close enough. One grain won't matter.
 
Well there it is in well it's black and grey on my screen. But just stick with the lower end loads and don't try to get creative and you will be fine. I think I am loading around 4grs of Bullseye in mine.

A lot of headaches (and broken guns) could be avoided if folks would stick to this advice. When I see guys trying to eek out a few more fps with their hand loads, I think -- why?? Hunting loads --OK, that's a whole different thing. Not many guys are out hunting deer with their nine though.
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Well to me there are levels of everything. Some folks have .357's they only shoot 38's in, and some have 38's they try and make into 357's. Myself, I load to different levels depending on what my intended use is. Most of the time it is hunting, and yes as accurate as my 9mm loads have shown to be I would probably not hesitate to haul it out for a little hog patrol, but that is a different issue all together. That said I load Berry's, as well as Speer GD's, and other JHPs as well as my own cast loads. I am not shy about getting any of them up and moving, but within reason. My Berry's loads are hardly breaking 1000fps, but my 130gr cast HP loads are bumping high end 1200's. AS with my other handguns and rifles, I load for reasons and specific purposes. My reasons might be in left field of everyone else, but everyone else can choose the loads they want to be happy with. If I want horsepower I take the 454, if I want capacity I take the 9mm.
 
T.O'Heir wrote: Load plated bullets using cast bullet data by the weight of the bullet. Plated bullets are not jacketed.
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There are many threads covering this. Plated bullets are neither jacketed nor cast. There are some significant differences amongst the plated bullet manufacturers and their products. Some use a soft core and what seems to be a whisp of plating. Others use a harder alloy core and thick plating. If we are going to generalize it goes as follows:

When using a low pressure cartridge like 38 Special. use Jacketed data to avoid getting a stuck bullet. When using a higher pressure cartridge like 9mm, 40 S&W, XXMag. Use high cast to mid jacket data; depending on the manufacturers recommendations.

The XXX fps. limit stated by many manufacturers is a generalization based on pistol bullets.....get 30 carb. or 7.62x39 bullets, those velocity windows go out the door.
 
There are many threads covering this. Plated bullets are neither jacketed nor cast. There are some significant differences amongst the plated bullet manufacturers and their products. Some use a soft core and what seems to be a whisp of plating. Others use a harder alloy core and thick plating. If we are going to generalize it goes as follows:

When using a low pressure cartridge like 38 Special. use Jacketed data to avoid getting a stuck bullet.
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I agree. And yes, it's been thoroughly covered in previous threads. I'm not going to get on my soap box this time. But to simply advise to load plated bullets to lead data is not only an over-simplification, but it's bordering on reckless.
 
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Thanks for info (I think) I have loaded Berry's before (that's about all I load) but never this type. Was more concerned about col as I could not find any good info on that. Ya all have a good day. Thanks again. Budd
 
Sorry to get off on a tangent there Budd56.

According to Berry's, they recommend their 124gn HBFP loaded to a COL of 1.060".

But actual mileage may vary :p Your firearm may prefer the 1.041 that you loaded them to.
 
I went to there site but did not see it.
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It's not old age. They don't have it on their site. I sent them an e-mail asking about the COL for their 125gn FP for 38 Special. They sent me a PDF file (I think it was a PDF) with the recommended COL for all their bullets.
 
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