Decent shotguns, but of course the 1200 suffers greatly when compared to it's predeccessor, the Model 12. The Model 12 just became too expensive to produce and, as has been noted, the 1200 was Winchester's attempt to build a shotgun that could compete in the mass-production marketplace that the company found itself in. Not a 'great' gun...like it's competitor, the Remington 870...in the opinion of most shotgunners. But it's a decent gun and many have been in service for 40+ years now and still going strong. The Sears version, the Model 200, is also common.