12 yds. 2" 357 snub Ruger.

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Klaud Wachnen

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I shot my friends snubby yesterday evening. Terrible accuracy but what can you expect from a snub, at least I hit the bullseye, the gun would work if you had to use it......
 

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Interesting. I assume you shot a Ruger SP101. Since the revolver only holds 5 rounds, did you load up one extra shot to hit the bullseye? Or was that shot with a different caliber? It appears to be considerably smaller than the other 5 holes.
 
No, the paper was bent, thats why the hole is smaller.

I loaded one bullet in for the first shot, it was the bullseye

Then did the rest.
 
Good eye's, I would have missed that. Probably loaded a .38 Spl. for the first shot. I've looked at that target three times and I swear the hole is smaller... ;)
 
I think a 32 cal ink pen was used, when indeed a 38 was called for. Actually, first time shooting a strange pistol...not too bad.
 
That's about right. I did about the same yesterday with an SP101 2.25" shooting 158gr .38spl from a standing position with a 2 hand grip.
 
Hrrmmm...go figure...that groups looks about what i can do with a snub nose at about 40-50 yards....not 12. I think you need to work on your fundimentals and learn how to shoot the thing before you make any accuracy claims.
 
"Hrrmmm...go figure...that groups looks about what i can do with a snub nose at about 40-50 yards....not 12. I think you need to work on your fundimentals and learn how to shoot the thing before you make any accuracy claims."

HA!! Shades of Mike Fink!
 
My personal experience with snubbies is that.............

if you are willing to practice a lot you can become quite competent with one at almost any reasonable distance. I know that I did a lot of practice until I could hit what I aimed at. Snubbies are not inherently less accurate than any other handgun. The shorter sight radius does, for sure, pose some accuracy problems but nothing that cannot be overcome handily with a lot of practice. :)
 
Best shot at the first CCW class I took was ex NYPD (no question) shooting a Taurus 38 snub he had just purchased at some discount house, never fired before. He had no guns in state at the time and wanted to take the calss, cheaply. Had on avarage best groups of anyone in a class with some glocks, sigs, BDA and even an 8 inch 357 (the things that show up at CCW class!).

Obviously not a reflection of the firearms but rather the operator.

I was very impressed with what years of practice and training can achive, especally considering he claimed to not have shot for many years.
 
Short sights just as good/better?

While I realize that the barrel on a snubby isn't any less accurate, the bottom line is, the sights are. All the credit to those who have managed to acquire the skill to shoot them as well as someone else can a longer gun... but that doesn't change the fact that longer barreled guns can be sighted more accurately.

While the following will be known to most long time gunners, I made the following figure to clarify the geometry for those newer to shooting... dY represents a fixed positional error made with two different guns, one with sights half the span of the other... the second (longer) achieves half the error on target with the same error at the sights:
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Your eye is at the intersection of the two blue lines, and the length of the red line indicates some fixed error (say 1/4" for example) of barrel displacement. So yes, better skill can overcome poorer equipment, but it is nonetheless poorer equipment, in terms of enabling accurate sighting, anyway.
 

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Carbineceleb?

Ya don't shoot much eh? :)
Personally I've lost count of folks that easily whacked steel plates at 100yds with their pocket rocket S&Ws/Rugers/Colts in .357 Maggie. Can't you?
I know nothing about fancy graphs and puter read outs I just shoot! :rolleyes:
 
Personally I've lost count of folks that easily whacked steel plates at 100yds with their pocket rocket S&Ws/Rugers/Colts in .357 Maggie. Can't you?
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Heck yeah! that's not even a challenge! I use a .22 snubnose and dial a cellphone with the bullet impacts from that range, and I shoot weakhanded over my shoulder looking through a mirror while I do it! Can't you??? :D

(P.S. because I only have 6 bullets but the long distance number is 10 digits, I have to dial 4 of those buttons using a ricochet off the first button hit ;) ) Can't you?

*Yawns* Yep, I was thinking about just filing the sights off my gun 'cause the cellphone trick is no challenge anymore... do you still use sights when you do it? :confused: :D
 
I shot this 10 yard group with my Taurus M85UL.
I'm satisfied I can put 'em where I need 'em!!! :D

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Klaud,
That's pretty good shooting!!!
Especially if that's your first time!! ;)
 
Personally I've lost count of folks that easily whacked steel plates at 100yds with their pocket rocket S&Ws/Rugers/Colts in .357 Maggie. Can't you?
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Yeah....give me a box of fifty rounds and I'll probably hit it once or twice. :cool:

Maybe. :rolleyes:

If the wind is with me. :D
 
Yes, first time using a two inch, I have shot a 3 and 4.... they are years more accurate than the one I shot.

I put a tight pattern at 25 yds, very tight with the 3 inch.

I don't know how you all claim to hit anything at 100 yds with a snub, if you do, that's crazy marksmanship, and too bad for thieves haha.
 
It's harder to do because of the decreased sight radius, but snubbies are certainly capable of just as high an accuracy. Technically, from a Ransom Rest, they should have more accuracy, with less barrel to flex and throw things off. This may be the perfect example of the difference between a firearm's "practical accuracy" versus its inherent accuracy. :)

So, Klaud Wachnen, where did you learn to shoot pistols? In Germany or the U.S.?
 
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