115 vs 124 Recil

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Spencer267

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Is there a noticeable difference in recoil between the two? I'm having a difficult time hitting my target with 115 grain at a mere 7 yards so I'm wondering if changing bullet weights would help. The gun I'm using is a Beretta M92FS.
 
Recoil doesn't affect accuracy; you feel the recoil after the bullet has left the barrel.
I'd be looking at trigger control; do some dry-fire and see if the sights are moving when the hammer drops.
 
In a Taurus PT99 (essentially same gun as yours) I can't tell the difference between 115's and 125's in defensive (+P) loads and POI is nearly the same, insignificant.
 
If you're having a hard time hitting the target I'd suggest a lot of dry fire training. Make sure those sights don't move when you pull the trigger.
 
The 124gr I've shot have been hotter than 115, at least as far as my personal experience goes, but I've not been able to find much to shoot with on store shelves.
 
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IMO not really. The very cheap 115 gr ammo is often pretty light in recoil just as a function of the manufacturers keeping the cost down whereas the 124 gr ammo falls less in the budget category so you might notice a difference there, but from the same manufacturer in the same product line the difference in recoil shouldn't be too dramatic.
 
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s there a noticeable difference in recoil between the two? I'm having a difficult time hitting my target with 115 grain at a mere 7 yards so I'm wondering if changing bullet weights would help. The gun I'm using is a Beretta M92FS.
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I agree with TunnelRat being not much if any noticeable difference. A Beretta 92FS is s pretty soft shooting gun in the first place.

What kind of problem are you having? Are you flinching (since you mention muzzle blast), usually evidence by shooting low and left for right hand shooter, or just poor overall accuracy?? How experienced are you with pistol shooting and have you had any one on one instruction by a good instructor on stance, grip, sight acquisition, and trigger control? Many ranges offer such for very reasonable investment and often just an hour or two can really help.

If muzzle blast bothers you it would be good to invest in a pair of ear muffs if you have not already. I wear ear plugs and ear muffs.

https://www.amazon.com/Peltor-Sport...11&sr=8-12&keywords=peltor+hearing+protection

This is an example of flinching.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Af_2isKeUA8

A drill to see if you are flinching.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxyTFzgWjhk
 
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I agree with other's posts. In addition to dry fire though, I recommend getting some dummy rounds. Randomly mix them in with live ammo in your magazine when shooting. This will reveal what you are doing when the hammer drops on a dummy round. If you're doing everything right, your sight picture and sight alignment will not change. If the gun shifts, you're anticipating the recoil and throwing shots off.
 
I think I notice some difference in recoil between 115 and 124, but it's so slight that I have to admit that it might be my imagination. That said, my gun seems to run a little better (a very little) with 124. As for hitting your target, I don't think that bullet weight is a significant factor in accuracy (with the caveat that I'm not an engineer, physicist, etc.). How big of a target, at 7 yards, are we talking about?
 
Check your zero. I don't know if you have adjustable sights. I have to calibrate my red dot if I change from one grain to another. Also if I change from one brand to another.

I zero for 25 yards.


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I do find a difference between 115gr and 124gr and 147gr.
Im not sure if it recoils any less but perceived "felt" recoil I feel like the heavier loads recoil softer.

As for the Beretta I don't recall twist rate off hand but it's optimized for 124gr although at avg handgun ranges you'd probably be hard pressed to find a difference in accuracy.
 
Personally, my guns seems to prefer the 124s as far as accuracy goes (being nearsighted means I suck anyway, but practice a lot! :D) and the factory versions cost the same as 115s. Just not going to find 124s at Walmart, so I order online.
 
Spenser267---IMhO you owe it to yourself to find out first hand. If nothing else just for fun. Life really is short.
 
Bullet weight has nothing to do with not hitting a 7yd target. You need to dry fire practice and you need to maintain 75% of your grip force with your support hand, and only 25% grip force with your shooting hand. I would also recommend that your thumbs be locked down & pointed downrange.
 
Spencer, are you getting a group? Or, or you scattering the shots? My 92FS shot so low there was no way to hit the X even at 7 yards. I had get a taller rear sight. AS for 115 vs 124, I think I get better accuracy with the 124 gr bullets.
 
You need to dry fire practice and you need to maintain 75% of your grip force with your support hand, and only 25% grip force with your shooting hand. I would also recommend that your thumbs be locked down & pointed downrange.
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I'll be honest in saying that I personally can't judge how much force I apply down to a percentage point with one hand versus the other as a function of the total amount of force. It's worth trying to alternate your grip pressure with one hand or the other and seeing if a certain combination works best for you OP as you work on this issue. This isn't a dig at JD, it's just I always found that advice less useful for me personally.

I will say this. If you're missing the target at 7 yards to me your issue is more fundamental than grip force application or the orientation of your thumbs (though knowing the size of your target would help). I don't disagree those factors can be important, but to me they come into play when you're fine tuning your technique and frankly those can still be off and you can hit a target at 7 yds (you can do it one handed for that matter). If you're not hitting the target at all then your trigger control and sight alignment are off in a pretty big way. That's something you can work on. Dry fire, snap caps mixed with live rounds when at the range, these can hopefully catch your issue as others mentioned above. I'd also suggest getting some instruction from a qualified individual if you can.
 
My accuracy is far from phenomenal. As others have said, you should tell the size/style of your target.

Id say someone with even minimal pistol experience should be able to make hits at 10 yards on a B-27 target.

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I can't tell the difference in my Taurus Model 99 or in my friend's Beretta Model 92.There may actually be a difference, but it's not enough for me to notice.
 
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This isn't a dig at JD, it's just I always found that advice less useful for me personally.
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OK, so what worked for me "might" not work for others, but if the OP trys it and the shots start to impact closer to where he's aiming, then we can call that progress, right? Another idea would be to invite somebody who shoots better than You to the range and see what you & this person can do with your respective guns. Or hire a good instructor for a hour at the range & see what you can learn to improve and perform repetitively.
 
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