110 Grain 357 Magnum: "Bad" for the Gun...?

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I stopped by my local gun shop and asked if they had any 110 grain 357 magnum. I had seen reviews on Winchester's 110 grain that said it was relatively low velocity and comfortable to shoot, so I wanted to try it for target practice. The guy behind the counter, who has helped me with other stuff and has always seemed to be fairly knowledgeable, told me I should stay away from 110 grain, because it's not good for my gun. Something about too much pressure on the cone...? I have a S&W 686 Stainless, which is fairly heavy and I would assume quite durable. I'm also thinking about getting a somewhat smaller S&W Model 60 Stainless. Should I be concerned about shooting 110 grain 357 Magnums (if I can find any!).
 
I dunno...

The 110gr .357Mag loadings tend to be on the mild side for the caliber--I would have thought that the 125gr loadings are the ones that would be hardest on the gun.
 
Unless the manufacturer says "no" I think it would be safe to shoot the stuff, particularly out of an L frame like a 686. The only round that I'm aware of that reputedly can damage a gun is 125gr. fired out of a K frame revolver such as a Model 19 or 66. The story is that there have been at least a few instances of cracked forcing cones in K frames resulting from frequent shooting of this round.

In order to be certain I'd check with Smith.
 
Should I be concerned about shooting 110 grain 357 Magnums (if I can find any!).

I have some 110g .357, but I admit they are old so I don't know how hard they are to find today. As far as hard on the forcing cone...I have shot 110g .357's from my GP100 and I never noticed anything going on, but that's a GP100.

If you want to shoot 110g then I say shoot all you want.
 
For what's it worth.

Oops.

Now I think it's right.

No. I give up. (I thought I had a link)

Anyway, I think the theory is that lighter bullets cross the forcing cone sooner and this allows flame cutting due to exposure to the peak flame heat.
 
I can see the light (also shorter) full power loads causing more stress on the gun but I can't really buy into the idea of the medium velocity 110 grain loads from the major manufacturers causing a problem at 1295 fps nominal velocity. Corbon (and others, perhaps) at 1500 fps, maybe so. I'm beginning to believe these stories take on a life of their own on the internet and by word of mouth not taking into consideration that the common 110 grainers are loaded to less pressure than say a 115 grain 9mm which no one ever said was particularly hard on the small revolvers chambered for that round and have about the same performance level. They are simply not full-power .357 magnum rounds.
 
The gunshop guy is confusing a few things. Yes, the fullhouse loads using the lighter bullets have been known to cause more wear with forcing cones when used in excess, but the load that you specifically mentioned (Winchester 110gr) is a very light load. So light, I'd recommend this one even in J-frame revolvers. I use this load in my 686 for home defense due to it's mild blast when used indoors and relatively low penetration.
 
Screaming fast 110 or 125 grain Magnums will do this over time:

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I've noticed the S&W nightguard warns against bullets LIGHTER than 110grn. he probably just has a few facts crossed.
 
Anyway, I think the theory is that lighter bullets cross the forcing cone sooner and this allows flame cutting due to exposure to the peak flame heat.

From the accounts that I have read, this is true. The lighter bullets are shorter thus letting more unburned powder and flames escape through the cylinder gap than out the muzzle.
 
Hornady makes a very nice 38P+ 110 grain FTX either model # 90310 or 90311. I use them all the time in my 2" 357 Rossi. Mild kick and recoil.
I'm not as knowledgeable as most of the people on this forum, but I can say I use them even though they are a bit expensive.
 
Hornady makes a very nice 38P+ 110 grain FTX either model # 90310 or 90311. I use them all the time in my 2" 357 Rossi. Mild kick and recoil.
+1 on that load. It's probably going to be my carry ammo in my LCR357. Not exactly mild in that gun but not as bad as some others. I think it would also be a great load for a Model 60, SP101, etc.
 
for general practice to keep skill sharp and defense it isnt bad for taurus medium frames
If you're going to dig up a 6 year old thread, please have something more scintillating than this to add to it.
 
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