White Rabbit
New member
Hello again,
Bit the bullet today and bought a Remington 11-87 Premier 20 guage autoloader.
Just one problem. It jams every shell! I got home and assembled it, took it out for a test shoot and loaded a single shell into the chamber. Fired it off (great recoil BTW) but noticed the action didn't move. I thought maybe it just needed broken in so I loaded another in the chamber and 1 single shell in the magzine. Fired off the first round and it JAMMED! Jammed so bad and so hard that I had to take it back to the shop. After about 20 minutes of struggling they finally got the shell removed and also the live round in the magzine tube. He then inspected the gun for defects in the gas operation and also burrs but didn't find any.
The guy at the shop said it might be the ammo I was using (Federal Top Gun 7/8 target load). I said damn I just bought a case of this stuff on one of your sales rep's recommendations. So he gave me box of similar Federal ammo in a game load. He said run it through single shell in the chamber at a time and see what happens. If it does the same thing then it's the gun, if it works then it's the ammo and he'd let me exchange it (good guys).
So, I got home (50 minutes each way) loaded the first shell of the new ammo, fired it, and it jammed again. I was able to work the action back and forth and finally ejected the shell. Loaded another and it did the same thing. I finished off the new box of ammo one shell at a time, all 25, in this manner. Took about 30 minutes to complete the box. Then I started on my first box of Top Gun ammo once again.
Now about half way through the Top Gun shells the action got a bit easier. I got some occasional stove-pipes. I even got a few succesful cycles where the action locked back. I was hot and tired at this point so I packed it up.
So what's causing this trouble? Does it just need some more break in? Should I return the gun? What to do, what to do?
Thanks to all for the continued help,
WR
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--"We need guns... lots of guns."--
Bit the bullet today and bought a Remington 11-87 Premier 20 guage autoloader.
Just one problem. It jams every shell! I got home and assembled it, took it out for a test shoot and loaded a single shell into the chamber. Fired it off (great recoil BTW) but noticed the action didn't move. I thought maybe it just needed broken in so I loaded another in the chamber and 1 single shell in the magzine. Fired off the first round and it JAMMED! Jammed so bad and so hard that I had to take it back to the shop. After about 20 minutes of struggling they finally got the shell removed and also the live round in the magzine tube. He then inspected the gun for defects in the gas operation and also burrs but didn't find any.
The guy at the shop said it might be the ammo I was using (Federal Top Gun 7/8 target load). I said damn I just bought a case of this stuff on one of your sales rep's recommendations. So he gave me box of similar Federal ammo in a game load. He said run it through single shell in the chamber at a time and see what happens. If it does the same thing then it's the gun, if it works then it's the ammo and he'd let me exchange it (good guys).
So, I got home (50 minutes each way) loaded the first shell of the new ammo, fired it, and it jammed again. I was able to work the action back and forth and finally ejected the shell. Loaded another and it did the same thing. I finished off the new box of ammo one shell at a time, all 25, in this manner. Took about 30 minutes to complete the box. Then I started on my first box of Top Gun ammo once again.
Now about half way through the Top Gun shells the action got a bit easier. I got some occasional stove-pipes. I even got a few succesful cycles where the action locked back. I was hot and tired at this point so I packed it up.
So what's causing this trouble? Does it just need some more break in? Should I return the gun? What to do, what to do?
Thanks to all for the continued help,
WR
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--"We need guns... lots of guns."--