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Lohman446

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Ok I am in the process of convincing myself that I *need* a 10MM in 1911. I have a strange affinity for 10MMs and keep a Glock 29 (G4) around that I really like but... well I NEED a 1911 right?

My concern is that I hear horror stories about 10MM 1911s not lasting. I don't really want to spend the money to buy a Wilson though hovered on that page awhile the other day.

Are there more affordable and reliable options that will last thousands of rounds (preferably more)?

I could deal with stepping away from a 1911 as long as it was still an exposed hammer firearm - even if it was DA/SA
 
EAA witness is the one I have seen around here that had a price tag under 4 digits that had an exposed hammer. I have not heard of any problems from them at the range.
 
My concern is that I hear horror stories about 10MM 1911s not lasting. I don't really want to spend the money to buy a Wilson though hovered on that page awhile the other day.
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What horror stories? More internet fodder.

There are plenty of good 1911's in 10mm, depending on your budget.

Colt, Kimber, Dan Wesson, STI to name a few that offer 10mm at a reasonable price.

I own the STI Nitro 10 for the past year with about 2,000 rounds through it, from lowly factory ammo to very lively Buffalo Bore ammo without any issues.

It gets a steady diet of Sig 10mm ball ammo (180gr@1250 fps) and it has been nothing but perfect.
 
Some 10mm 1911s come apart because the owners don't change out the recoil springs, and yes, in most cases a 10mm 1911 will have a shorter lifespan than an equivalently built .45ACP 1911, but that will still be 10s of thousands of rounds.

I have a Dan Wesson (Original Limited run Razorback) that is still going strong after 20K rounds through it. Locks up tight, no issues at all. But I change the recoil spring at 2K rounds and don't use the standard 1911 springs either.
 
And "lasting" is relative.
If you need to shoot nothing but full-power ammo, so you are not cheating yourself out of the full shock-and-awe effect of shooting 10mm, you will wear-out the gun more quickly than if you reserve the heavy stuff for targets that can tell the difference.
I've had a Delta Elite for fifteen years, have some thousands of rounds through it, but no more than a few hundred of those have been full-power, as I'm shooting at inanimate objects that can't tell if the bullet is going 1000fps or 1200fps.
 
MarkCO said:
Some 10mm 1911s come apart because the owners don't change out the recoil springs, and yes, in most cases a 10mm 1911 will have a shorter lifespan than an equivalently built .45ACP 1911, but that will still be 10s of thousands of rounds.



I have a Dan Wesson (Original Limited run Razorback) that is still going strong after 20K rounds through it. Locks up tight, no issues at all. But I change the recoil spring at 2K rounds and don't use the standard 1911 springs either.
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What springs do you use?
 
I have a Kimber 10mm with a few thousand rounds through it. It seems to still work fine................. At least it did yesterday when I shot it.
 
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20# ISMI springs is what I use.
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I ask because I'm liable yo get a Kimber 10mm one of these days, and like a heavier spring in my 10mm's.

I use a 21# in my Glock 29 and a 20# in my Glock 20.

Both work flawlessly with all ammo types, and the heavier spring protects the frame a little better than the factory 17# springs.
 
Next possibly stupid question. I have been looking at the various sights and tend to favor slightly shorter firearms (the Commander and Defender are my preferred sizes if I am using the terminology correctly) but notice that the 10MM only seem available in the full length ones. Is this just part how it has to be due to the round?
 
YMMV.

I played with a lot of spring rates in 1911s. Speed shooting vs. slow aimed fire, different rates may offer advantages.

I played a lot with the .40 Super as well. What I found is that (and even with +P .45) too much spring batters as much as not enough. I kind of settled on 20# as the best for full power, 5" 1911s in 10mm. I did try 22 and 24, even 26. With the 26, a slight bobble and you can deep seat a bullet easily in .40 Super, and sometimes in 10mm depending on load. At 24 pounds, a little less and with 22, the shortening was extremely rare. I ran 22# in my Glock 10mms which "seems" about the same as the 20# in the 1911.
 
Next possibly stupid question. I have been looking at the various sights and tend to favor slightly shorter firearms (the Commander and Defender are my preferred sizes if I am using the terminology correctly) but notice that the 10MM only seem available in the full length ones. Is this just part how it has to be due to the round?
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It's the nature of the round; high pressure, conventional 1911 mechanics designed around a low-pressure cartridge. Shortening the barrel and slide means less reciprocating weight to resist unlocking, and less spring to absorb the resulting recoil energy.
Also, since the whole point is high velocity, why would you want to shorten the barrel and reduce velocities?
 
I have a strange affinity for 10MMs
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Strange? Nothing strange about it. It's because they're awesome.

I have Glocks 29sf & 20sf. I often carry the 29. No 1911 though. I love 1911's, but have no desire to have one in 10mm. When I think 1911, I think 45ACP (and visa-versa). Guess I'm just old school that way.
 
Iver Johnson makes a model called the Eagle XL - 6" barrel - 10mm, I would like to give one of these a try.
 
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