10% Gel vs Quik-Shok Video

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For those interested in the Quik-Shok’s Terminal Ballistics we have just added a link on our site to a high-speed video of a 155gr .40 S&W Quik-Shok impacting a block of 10% Ordinance Gelatin.

To view the video go to our home site and enter by clicking on one of the pics. From the main page click on “Products” which will bring up a drop down menu. Choose Quik-Shok. When the page loads scroll down to the static picture above the ballistics table and click on that.

Note – Due to the many frames needed to slow the microsecond effect load time is long
 
It is unfortunate that penetration depth in the gel is not published. Spectacular wounds do not count for much if they don't penetrate deeply enough to disrupt major blood supply.

regards,

Olazul
 
Cool Video. It would be nice to know the penetration depth of the three fragments and the depth to which that temporary bubble extends.

Its also very interesting that the fragments stop and get sucked backwards as the bubble contracts. I wonder if this happens with all bullets. It might change how you you should be measuring penetration depth; "recovered depth" or "actual depth".

Any answers Triton? Also, any similar stuff with barriers (clothes, glass, metal, etc.)
 
Ohhhhhh... the Woody factor is high on that video! :o

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Here is the penetration info with different barriers on that specific load;

9” - Sheetrock or Windshield Glass
9.5” – Bare Gel or Steel (20 gauge)
10” – 10.5” – Clothing

Circle of dispersion of the three fragments is typically 3.5” – 4.5” depending on caliber.

Like the INS, we believe that 9” – 12” penetration is optimal. All of our ammo is designed to meet that penetration level. Our new catalog, which we are currently working on, will include additional tables on our lines (i.e. depth of penetration, recovered diameter, recovered weight, etc).

Bullwinkle. What you are seeing in the video is the temporary stretch cavities created by 1st – the QS expanding and fragmenting, 2nd the 3 Fragments coming out of that with their own temporary cavities, 3rd the collapse of the three cavities and 4th the collapse of the initial cavity (which again expands the three cavities).

The bullet fragments do not get sucked backwards, they remain at the terminal ends of the 3 cavities. Now remember, each of those temporary stretch cavities also has a permanent wound cavity associated with it. In addition, the area between the three segments is, at the very least, dramatically disrupted, or best-case scenario - destroyed.
 
Triton,

Thanks for the follow-up.

Its very remarkable that the penetration varies so little with the various barrier materials (or the lack of a barrier). Do you put the steel/glass right up against the gel or do you leave an air gap (as is most likely in life)? I would guess an air gap would increase the circle of dispersion but probably not change much else (might be a good thing).

I'll be interested to see the results for that same bullet in a HOT 10mm loading. Hopefully the extra velocity would get it into the 12-in.+ range instead of the 12-in. (-) range. I'm haveing a hard time letting go of the idea that you need to be able to shoot through something. :)
 
I am a total fan of Quick-Shock in .22 LR.

Is there a 9x18 Quick-Shock in our future???

PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Now I am off to see the video!

Jody

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Jody: We are always looking to expand our line items. We have look at the 9x18 along with others. So that rumors :eek: don’t get started (which, btw, they easily do) I can neither confirm nor deny that Triton will make a 9x18 QS in the future. ;)

Bullwinkle: There are different protocols for different tests. We comply with the current INS protocols. I’m not sure if they are available on the net to the general public but you could check.

Rob96: Yes we do have the stats for our other line items. However, they would be too long to list here. That is why we will be including them in on next catalog. (see my previous post)
 
The video is great. NOW I want to see one with the .22 LR... Did Triton sell that to Blount? I see the .22 is not listed at Triton but I buy quite a bit of it and it comes from Blount.

Please explain... Inquiring Minds you know and ...

Don't worry about any rumors getting started I won't tell a soul -- your secret is safe with me...

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My my you are inquisitive aren't you.

The inventor of the Quik-Shok, Tom Burczynski (of Hydra-Shok, Starfire & EFMJ fame) currently holds the Patent on the QS design.

Triton is the sole license holder for the Center Fire version of the QS. Tom has licensed other companies to produce the rim-fire and the shotgun versions.


[This message has been edited by TritonCartridge (edited August 09, 2000).]
 
Now if you guys would just get the quality control up to where I can trust ya!

Have had bad experiences with the old 125 357 SIG, 115 357SIG QS, 45 Super. The 155/40 QS was excellent.

Keep trying! Don't give up! I haven't written you off completely - You are waaaaaay ahead of CorBon! :)

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