Ethical hunting kills with iron sights

My greatest hail mary shot was offhand with a pellet pistol at about 100 feet into the head of a starling. It was poking it's head out of a woodpecker hole and making me mad.

Sometimes everything comes together and I make the incredible shots. I Never expected to actually nail it, all that was showing was the shoulders and head.
 
Was that a wood blind?
Half inch plywood. Sitting on the back bench holding the full length shotgun I couldn't even stick the barrel out the window. I want to say it was 6x6x8 feet with one 24x30 window.
 
I just remembered a shot made by a friend, he is a crazy fanatic goose hunter and he breeds and raises, as well as trains golden retrievers. Only goldens. This guy will stay awake for days when the dogs go into labor.

He lives in territory just outside of suburban, where wildlife encroaches, and he can't allow anything near his $2,000 pups or dogs.

One day a few years ago he spotted a coyote eyeing the farm, got his ten gauge and loaded a round, I think it was number 2 buck. He fired at it and nailed it through an eye with a single pellet at about 150 yards. of course, a guy who can drop a teal at through a mile of fog, rain and hail without touching the flock of canvasbacks that he's piggybacking on shouldn't be missing a coyote.
 
I see most of the responses showing a "longest iron sight shot" still about 200yds or less. This may be creating the false impression that iron sights aren't "good" for longer ranges.

But you need to consider that these days, people, generally, carry iron sighted (only) rifles where they expect the range to be short, cover is thick, and shots may be sudden.

Its not a matter of iron sights limiting the range, its a matter of the range limiting the shot, and iron sights being used because they are perfectly adequate for those ranges, and are used because iron sights offer some advantages a scope does not.
 
You may not find many stories of long shots on game in the Eastern deer woods, or even in the more open Midwest, because many of those states are shotgun only. But go to Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, Colorado or New Mexico and you will hear a bunch. Even guys 40 - 50 years old have probably always had scoped rifles, but they will remember grand dad telling about long shots across the valleys between two hills. Read the books of Elmer Keith and he has plenty of long shot tales including his 600 yard deer kill with a S&W Model 29. You will get more long shots at game in the western states just because of the topography.
Early 70's, in the Army, we had this little head and shoulders silhouette target, like a guy peeking out of a foxhole. They were gray/ green color, in the green brush of Ft. Knox, KY. but my 18 year old eyes could see them at 400 yards. And hit them. Someone asked about the sight picture at long ranges and in my own experience and reading other gun writers, you often acquire the target with a six o'clock hold, then raise the front sight, obscuring the target, and shoot.
Read historical accounts from WW 1 or WW 2 Europe and GI's were making great long shots on deer sized targets (humans) with '03 Springfields, Enfields and Garands. Usually men from western states or Kentucky or Tennessee. Often not in the best conditions, snow, rain, artillery falling on you.
Read about the battle at Adobe Walls. A trapper knocked an Indian off his horse, standing on the horizon, with a 50-70 or 45-70, memory fails, at over a measured 1000 yards. I'm sure he shot a lot of buffalo with that rifle at 500 yards. Know your gun and load.
My longest iron sight kills are a Sitka deer in SE Alaska, with an '03 Springfield 30-06, across a valley, hillside to hillside, can't know exact but over 300 yards conservatively, probably closer to 400. Had him perched on top of the front sight, then raised the front sight, obscuring the target, just before I fired. Hit him mid body (top to bottom) and behind the shoulder. He was dead before he finished rolling down the hill.
When I was about 12 we were hunting rabbits on a friend's farm. Just before sundown a jack presented himself on the horizon, back lit by the setting sun. He was standing up, probably listening to us. I was using a borrowed .22, don't remember what kind. I aimed at the top of his ears, fired and he fell over dead. Took 240 long paces to reach him. Hit him through the ear canals, brain shot.
Several of you have said you were lucky, but it isn't luck to know your gun and load, and direct fire accurately enough for a positive result.
 
I don't doubt that some people are capable shooters at long ranges with iron sights. I do think there is a difference between battle shots on human targets, long shots on inanimate targets, and humane kill shots on game animals. I also didn't live when settlers were involved in skirmishes with Indians or when hunter tradesmen rode the open plains hunting buffalo. I did live in Montana and New Mexico when I was younger so I do understand the significance of the landscape, the different animals, and the different lifestyle.
 
Ok. Now that the target has been identified with binoculars, how is the transition to the iron sights of a rifle? What is the sight picture on iron sights to an animal at 700 yards?
1000 yard sights line up nicely on deer sized targets at 1000. I hate iron sights. Don't have to worry about me shooting anything at 1k with irons.
 
Squirrel at 50 yards with a .22 rifle. Pheasants at some similar range with 12ga shotgun.

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Was checking zero on scoped hunting rifles the other day at 100 yards. paper plate targets with orange sticker dot in the middle. Used the orange dot as aiming point for the scopes.

Then I broke out my 96/38 Swede Mauser in 6.5x55. I had replaced the rear leaf sight with a Snap Sight aperture and the front with an extra long blade that I filed down to be hit 4" high at 100 yards with 140gr soft points.

I then took a 6 o'clock hold on the paper plate and proceeded to shoot my best group for the day, with the rounds impacting in the orange dot. Love that rifle, love that 2-stage trigger.

I would not hesitate to shoot medium game at 100 yards with those irons, taking an aim point where foreleg intersects body.

That would be AFTER I identified the animal I was to shoot with binos or a spotting scope.
 
If I can hit a 16” gong with a 5” 44 mag at 180 yards you should be able to kill game at a yardage you can see clearly. Shoot your gun ALOT, until you KNOW where it hits.

There is an old saying. “Fear the man with but one rifle”. Why? Because he KNOWS that weapon very well, he has put in the time to know it well.
 
A trapper knocked an Indian off his horse, standing on the horizon, with a 50-70 or 45-70, memory fails, at over a measured 1000 yards. I'm sure he shot a lot of buffalo with that rifle at 500 yards. Know your gun and load.

Billy Dixon at Adobe Walls with a borrowed 50-90 Sharps at 1,538 yards but even he said it was a lucky shot.
 
The only game animal I ever shot with iron sights was a deer that I shot with a 20 gauge pump with just a bead. It was running full tilt across my path and I hit it through the shoulder/lungs with a Brenneke slug at about 40 yards, through an opening in the alders. It dropped instantly and died quickly. All my hunting rifles have scopes on them and most don't have iron sight backup. If it's too nasty to hunt with a scoped rifle, it's too nasty for me.
 
in nasty weather I use plain open sights, rain-snow. I have hunted in those conditions with a scope and missed animal due to fogging(breath) on out side of the scope lens, snow on the lens while trying to sneek up on deer in heavy brush with caps open. I feel good about shots taken on deer to a hundred yards with open sights.
 
I use one of my Garands for whitetails. Longest shot was around 150 yards. Other shots have been 50 to 100 yards. Deer at 100 yards are a decent size target to have.
 
I usually use a scope. BUT

22LR - Have shot squirrels from 20 to 40 yards
Sight was a V-notch.

303B - Have killed deer from 4 to 90 yards, a coyote at 85 and hogs at 20 to 60.
The deer at 4 was still and some of the hogs at 20 were running. Got these with the ghost ring.
Rest were with the small aperture lob.
All were in good daylight.
 
A few roedeer at up to 100m (irons sighted in at 80m with s higher poi than poa.)

Smoothbore shotgun with slugs, just a bead 75ish meters, big boar

A bullmoose 200m+ but that was a gamble, it was already wounded
 
A squirrel at about 20 yards. A pig with a 30-30 Marlin 336 at about 50 yards. That's about it, I preferred a peep over open sights back when I hunted without a scope.

Nowadays, I can't do the focus change from front sight to target anymore, so I hunt mostly with a scope. The exception is turkey hunting. I can't focus on the front sight, but I have fiber optic sights on my turkey shotgun and I can still put the red blur between the two green blurs well enough to hit a stationary target at 40 yards with a shotgun.
 
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